A Gay Man Responds to Phil Robertson’s quote in GQ

My dear Catholic brothers and sisters, 

We have to be a part of the solution, not the problem By that I mean that we all have to begin listening to one another instead of being so quick to anger and quick to get in “our” corner with “our team” against “their team”. We are all human. The Holy Father asks us to love one another and we all know that that does not mean sing around the campfire accepting sins as ok, it means loving a person despite the fact that they are sinners because God loves us despite that fact. 

This was written by Jacob Flores, the son of my best friend. I’ve known him since he was a child and I have loved him and watched him grow up into a wonderful man. I also watched his mother cry when he was being harassed by others when he was in school. It is not easy to watch that, and I’m sure it’s even harder to live through it. He’s brave, smart, courageous and I’m proud to call him my friend. 

Here’s Phil’s Original quote – “Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men. Don’t be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers — they won’t inherit the kingdom of God. Don’t deceive yourself. It’s not right.”

I, a proud homosexual man, am not offended. In an interview with GQ, he spoke about sin. I think what he was trying to say was that people in general are losing morality when it comes to following the bible, first, it starts with homosexuality and the development that gay is okay, and then it’ll be bestiality, then something else, and then something worse. The bible does say that men and women are ment to be together, and I really do think that it was just his opinion about the perceptions of sin. I honestly don’t think he was meaning to be hateful, but he was asked a question and he answered it honestly. I really see nothing wrong with the way he was raised and the beliefs he has come to on his own terms; that’s what he believes and it’s okay. If we as homosexuals desire the freedom to believe whatever we want to believe, then we should allow people on the opposite side of the spectrum to be able to respectfully do the same. He wasn’t being hateful in my opinion. He was just answering a question.

Right now, I see so much hate circulating through social media. So much of this hate is pointless. Everybody is so quick to judge. Everybody is so quick to share their hatred. Everybody is so quick to be angry at something. Simply knowing that there are so many hateful people out there makes me sad.

*** Any ugly comments will not be approved.

UPDATE: Comments are now closed. I thank everyone for reading this and commenting, it’s been a great conversation, but it’s the last days of Advent and I’m unplugging from the internet to enjoy the Birth of Christ. Here are a few links that I found to be great:

http://audreyassad.tumblr.com/post/70694147913/personhood-sexuality-and-phil-robertson

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/samrocha/2013/12/thoughts-on-phil-robertson-and-duck-dynasty/

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/theanchoress/2013/12/20/i-am-the-momma-bear-of-new-homophiles/

And a good book to read on the Catholic View of Marriage is

http://www.amazon.com/Men-Women-Mystery-Love-Responsibility/dp/0867168404

And you can always look up Marriage and Homosexuality in the Catechism of the Catholic Church if you want to actually know what we believe. It’s free online.

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/_INDEX.HTM

Lastly, Love and Responsibility or Theology of the Body by John Paul II is also a great resource for anyone interested in what we believe and why instead of just listening to what people say we believe. There is a great Love and Responsibility PDF online that is an easy read.

 

Merry Christmas Ya’ll!

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79 thoughts on “A Gay Man Responds to Phil Robertson’s quote in GQ

  1. Marriage was created by God. It is intended for a man and woman. If homosexuals want to have a civil union, that’s their choice but marriage is a scared sacrament that was and is still ordained by God for a man and a woman. Be equal, that’s your business but don’t twist God’s word on what MARRIAGE is. He clearly states this in His word, The Bible.

  2. Marriages are not recognized as legal unions by the government unless you file the proper paper work. On the other hand, my marriage paper work was filed with the government and was recognized as legal without one ounce of religion being involved.

  3. The problem with that is that marriage in the eyes of the GOVERNMENT is not for Christians only. Atheists can get married and be recognized by the government. They sure as heck don’t believe in God. Murders are allowed to get married and be recognized by the government. Same with any other sin. Why is this one sin (if you believe it’s a sin, not all do) special enough to now allow the GOVERNMENT to recognize their marriage even when we are suppose to have separation of church and state. Not everyone in America is of the same religion. Having a marriage through the government has nothing to do with religion. I am a straight woman married to a straight man. We got married by a judge in a ceremony at a relative’s home. We were not in a church and there was nothing religious about our wedding. Still, we filed the paperwork with the government and we are legally married. The problem is that some Christians (and I consider myself a Christian) think that it’s their way and only their way and are trying to force others to live under their rules. The government is not a religion and it applies to all religious beliefs.

  4. The Catholic church doesn’t own marriage. If you think homosexuals cannot marry, because it doesn’t “exist” in your church, then what about people who don’t practice Catholicism? Even Atheist men and women can marry. You know why? Because it is a human right, not a sacrament of YOUR church. So yes, you are against certain people, because your churches views are against certain people.

  5. Phil’s comments were based on an old testament statement in the Bible. However, Christ set us free from the law of the old testament and put under grace. The Bible clearly says that our righteousness is as filthy rags unless we have the blood of Jesus to cover them. It is true that sinners will not enter heaven but if we are Christians then our sins are covered by Christ, who became our sacrifice. Our belief in Christ is the only thing that allows any of us to enter heaven. My sins are just as great as homosexuality or any other sin. We must all work out our salvation and only God will determine who goes to heaven. I support Phil and his right to speak his opinion. A&E doesn’t own this family and the words weren’t even spoken during the show so they had no business monitoring his life. I appreciate the tolerance expressed here.

  6. “speech that throws them under a negative spotlight, since that kind of attention could lead to murder or assault”… The flaw here is that it is not the responsibility of those who engaged in the speech, but it is the responsibility and fault of those who wrongly interpret it as “negative” and who carry out the murder and assault. That puts the blame on the wrong individuals because it presumes that someone’s actions are the fault of someone else freely expressing themselves. Humans need to be trained to understand that the opinions of others is NOT justification for YOUR actions. Period.

  7. You can’t “cherry pick” a statement from someone either to make a point. He equated homosexuality with sin. Which he then equated with bestiality, drunkeness, adultery, fornication, lying and many other things (many of which he had committed himself). I would suggest to anyone who hasn’t read the ENTIRE article to do so and see if he meant any ill will towards the homosexual community. He never once said that homosexuality was worse than any other sin he only stated that he didn’t see what people saw in it.

  8. I do not know much about the Catholic Church I’ll be the first to admit that. My point was the Church does have the right to their beliefs as well as the religions followers. The problem is gay people do not yet have the same rights as everyone else. That is why people are so sensitive to his comments, even if he is pulling his comments from the bible. Currently, there is an ongoing fight for gay rights. He is in the public eye, and his comments are of the kind that contribute to inequality. The author choose to publish them though, so in my eyes he is also inadvertently contributing to that inequality. That is my main point though, everyone should be equal, but we are not there yet as a society. To love humanity is to want everyone to have the ability to pursue a fulfilling life. It really does baffle me that in 2013 we have a segment of society that has to fight to be equal.

  9. Marriage isn’t a sacrament if you need official government paperwork to have it done. I never had to file paperwork with the courthouse to get my first communion. I get what you are saying, but marriage is not just something that happens within the confines of a church. Please take some time to look into the paperwork that must be filed with the government to get married. Thanks :)

  10. The thing is that the teachings of the Catholic Church are not about inequality. They are about what Marriage *is*. Most people agree that gay people deserve the same rights as everyone else. Marriage isn’t a right, it is a Sacrament. Gay people have the right to live, love and have sex with whoever they want, the same as anyone else. For us gay marriage is like square circles: It just doesn’t exist. If people would actually listen to what we believe they would see that we are not anti-anyone or against anyone’s rights.

  11. And one has to take the Bible as a whole. St. Paul said things about it too. And Jesus talked about love. It can’t just be cherry picking the Bible to make a point, which a lot of people do. It has to be taken as a whole.

  12. I’m not offended either. Although I am not offended for his freedom of speech. I am offended that everyone who has products they sell with their face and name plastered on is not pulling them off the shelf. I don’t think this is any different than the Paula Deen issue. Everyone was VERY quick to pull her off the shelf and fire her. It should be the same way. I work for a business that says they will remain neutral but obviously not since you pulled someone’s merch from saying something years and years ago but not pulling someone’s merch that said it says ago!!! Shame on you!!!

  13. I agree with you. Phil’s response to the question does not compare homosexuality with beastiality, nor is his statement indicative that homosexuality will lead to beastiality. From an essay point of view, he just made a list of what he thought were sinners. Somebody has to be first on the list. Although his judging other people is wrong, wrong, wrong; it is his opinion and we are all free to state our opinions in this country. No matter how good he thinks he is, he needs to remember no one is perfect, and no one is without sin. No matter what type of media sensationalizes comments such as this some group will always be offended. We are all quite sensitive about our constitutional rights. These rights are also interpreted in diverse ways.

  14. I always believe that a person is entitled to their opinion and beliefs as long as it doesn’t infringe upon another person’s happiness.
    However, when Mr. Robertson displayed an utter denial of the mistreatment of Blacks in the Jim Crow era in the deep south it was both historically inaccurate and statistically impossible for him to make the claims that he made (given his year of birth: 1947 and where he attended school and college).

  15. Thank you so much for posting this!!! I am a Christian, and I am not gay, but I have several friends who are, and I have always been of e belief that I owe them my respect. While I may not personally agree with same-gender relationships from a biblical perspective, I believe that it is not man’s place to judge their decisions, and that we are called to do nothing more show them Christ’s love. Judging and boycotting and picketing do nothing but portray Christians as bigots and closed-minded radicals, and that is NOT Christ’s model for His church. Jacob, may God bless you for not being afraid to speak out the truth, and for not getting all up in arms over something that was totally misconstrued!

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